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Ventless Gas Logs

Ventless gas logs are the perfect choice for homeowners who not only want a great-looking fire, but who also want the most efficient heating from their gas log set. Ventless gas logs operate with the flue closed, project 100% of the heat generated into the home, and only create some air moisture through their operation. Our high-quality ventless gas log sets can beautify your fireplace and provide the cozy, hassle-free warmth you're looking for.
By Andy Tate from Cincinnati, Ohio on January 1, 2013
Can ventless gas logs be installed in a standard fireplace? Would venting still be required?
By Tyler M. - Fireplace Specialist on January 2, 2013

Answer:
Yes, ventless gas logs can indeed be installed in a masonry/brick fireplace or a manufactured wood-burning fireplace that has been tested and listed to accept gas logs. No venting would be required. In either case, the damper for the existing fireplace would be closed.

By Lynda McAuley from Ontario on October 20, 2012
When I run my gas GI3600 fireplace, I smell an odor that is very irrational to my throat and my lungs burn. Is this the result of the ceramic logs?
By Collin C. - NFI Master Hearth Professional on October 22, 2012

Answer:
While uncommon, this natural vent fireplace insert can create an unpleasant smell under certain circumstances. One of the following issues may be occurring:

1. The unit is new and the paint used in production of the unit is still curing. This is the most common cause of this smell and will dissipate with use.

2. The ceramic logs are placed improperly. Please verify the logs are placed in the unit as specified in the owner's manual.

3. The unit is experiencing a downdraft (spillage) when used. This can be caused by strong winds forcing their way down the chimney. A high wind cap can alleviate this issue.

It would be best to check these issues in the order that they are listed. I will be happy to answer any questions you may have about further issues.

By Bill from Michigan on December 24, 2012
Is there a product that gives a wood smell for ventless fireplaces?
By Kevin E. - Fireplace Specialist on December 26, 2012

Answer:
There are various aroma stones available that are activated by the heat of your fireplace. Unfortunately, we have none that features the scent of naturally burning wood.

By John from Cabin John, MD on December 5, 2012
What else needs to be purchased if Ventless Gas Logs are purchased for an existing 36" wood fireplace?
By Collin C. - NFI Master Hearth Professional on December 5, 2012

Answer:
If a new ventless log set is purchased, it will come as a complete assembly. The set will have all the needed components, including the decorative embers.

Installation costs vary from region to region.

By Pala from Maryland on January 12, 2013
If I buy the vent free fireplace with remote control to turn the system on and off, will I still need to use the control knob, and if so where is it located on your systems? I have a vent free system already in my basement that is manual. I have to get on the floor to turn the control knob to turn it on to pilot, then adjust. I would like to purchase a system for upstairs but do not wish to get on the floor to turn it on.
By Collin C. - NFI Master Hearth Professional on January 14, 2013

Answer:
Remote ready vent free fireplaces can be controlled from a remote or wall switch during the majority of operation. The pilot light will still need to be manually lit via the controls on the unit, but after this point the unit can be controlled completely by the remote. No further use of the unit's controls will be necessary unless you wish to turn the pilot completely off.

By Rhett Ruscoe from Clarksdale, MS on December 26, 2012
My fireplace is 36" front, 31" back, 22" depth. What size logs should I be looking for - 24" or 20"?
By Collin C. - NFI Master Hearth Professional on December 26, 2012

Answer:
Per your dimensions, 24 inch ventless gas logs would offer the better fit.

By Customer from Dayton, NJ on October 22, 2012
What is the difference between the remotes?
By Tyler M. - Fireplace Specialist on October 22, 2012

Answer:
There are four different options for remotes with our Peterson Real Fyre Ventless Gas Logs. First, there are two options for the On/Off Automatic Pilot Kit log sets. The first is a basic on/off remote that simply turns the log set on or off, and the second is a deluxe on/off remote that turns a set on or off and also has a thermostat that can be set to operate the log set accordingly.

There are also two remotes available with the Variable Flame Remote Pilot Kit. The first is similar to the basic on/off remote, but each time you press the "On" button, the valve gradually opens and the flame gets higher. As you press the "Off" button, the valve gradually closes and the flame gets lower.

The second remote available for the Variable Flame Remote Pilot Kit has the added feature of a thermostat that will cause the valve to open and close as needed to meet the temperature you choose.

By Dan Blahnik from Whitelaw, WI on December 6, 2012
I have a two-sided fireplace with a fireplace insert. We had it converted to a propane vented gas log a few years ago, but we get very little heat out of it now so we don't use it. I have been thinking about changing to a ventless gas log.

1) Does this make sense? Will this give us more heat? 2) Could a ventless gas log be run with the vent closed? 3) Our insert also has doors and draws air from an outdoor vent. How would this work? 4) Finally, any suggestions on a log set?
By Collin C. - NFI Master Hearth Professional on December 6, 2012

Answer:
A ventless log set would indeed offer a much greater amount of usable heat, compared to a largely decorative vented appliance. The ventless log sets are indeed designed to be operated with the damper closed and could use the outside air kit to draw fresh air for combustion. The doors would need to remain open during operation of the set.

By Dan Blahnik from Whitelaw Wi. on December 15, 2012
I have a Heatilator Model ST36C Fireplace. Can I use a ventless gas log with this unit ? I have read that Heatilator doesn't recommend using ventless logs in some of their fireplaces. Why?
By Collin C. - NFI Master Hearth Professional on December 17, 2012

Answer:
Some models of fireplaces, including this model, do not allow for use of ventless gas logs because they are not insulated to stand up against the extra heat. Because the damper is closed during operation of ventless gas logs, no dilution air is pulled into the fireplace opening to cool it. This can cause the firebox to get significantly hotter than it would when being vented. In turn, this can cause clearances to the wooden framing behind the fireplace to be incorrect and will eventually lead to a fire.

Overall, only if the appliance specifically states that it can be used with ventless gas logs can you do so.

By Steve from Atmore, AL on December 16, 2012
I have a Monessen MCUF42D vent-free firebox (openings: 38.5" front, 30.25" rear, 16" depth, 26" height), an Ambiet Technologies RCT remote, and am set up for propane / LP gas. Which vent-free gas log sets (complete with logs, burner, millivolt valve, grate, etc) will work with my firebox and remote?
By Collin C. - NFI Master Hearth Professional on December 17, 2012

Answer:
One popular option for your size of fireplace is the Real Fyre 30" Charred Frontier Oak Ventless Propane Gas Logs Set with Variable Flame Remote Pilot Kit. Another, lower cost option would be the Real Fyre 24" Golden Oak Designer Ventless Propane Gas Logs Set with Variable Flame Remote Pilot Kit. Both of these sets offer the ability to use your programmable remote and will fit your fireplace properly.

By TaMara from Chicago, IL on January 14, 2013
Are there options to purchase just the logs for a ventless fireplace? The logs that came with the unit are damaged and cant be used and I would like to figure out how to get just the logs or figure out a creative way to fill in the area without purchasing an entire unit.
By Tyler M. - Fireplace Specialist on January 14, 2013

Answer:
Availability of replacement logs for your firebox will depend on a couple things. First, is your unit a vent-free firebox and separate vent-free log set, or did it all come together as part of a vent-free fireplace system (with box, burner and logs all included). If the former is true, you can replace your logs with a ventless gas log set. If the latter is the case, please reply with your manufacturer and model information and we can research availability of replacement logs for your unit.

By Nikki from Ojai, CA on October 23, 2012
Can ventless gas logs be used in California? We currently have a natural gas-jetted wood-burning fireplace and would like to use the faux logs but don't want all the heat to be sucked up the chimney flue due to an open damper.
By Kevin E. - Fireplace Specialist on October 24, 2012

Answer:
Unfortunately, no. The state of California prohibits the installation of vent-free gas appliances. An alternative would be a direct vent insert. This option would require the relining of your chimney, though.

By Jeri from Lexington, KY on February 12, 2013
I want a ventless gas log set with a blower. What is the best option for me?
By Tyler M. - Fireplace Specialist on February 12, 2013

Answer:
None of our ventless gas log sets have a blower option. If you have a manufactured wood-burning fireplace, there may be a blower available for that model that you can use in conjunction with a ventless log set.

By mike phillips from Raleigh, NC on November 29, 2012
Where can I find the efficiency rating percentage for gas logs? I have the Pyromaster UN-24IL un-vented set. My HVAC guy says they are about 40% and my gas pack is about 70 (installed 1997). I have a friend with older logs too. He heats only with those.
By Tyler M. - Fireplace Specialist on November 29, 2012

Answer:
Our Real Fyre ventless gas logs are 99.9% efficient, as the heat has nowhere to go but in the room where you are burning the log set.

By Jaycee from Mt. Laurel, NJ on February 4, 2013
I have ventless ceramic logs in my wood-burning fireplace that was converted more than 15 years ago. Lately I have noticed a residual soot around the fireplace brick and walls nearby. The unit still works well. Does this mean the set needs to be replaced? If so, why?
By Collin C. - NFI Master Hearth Professional on February 5, 2013

Answer:
Increased output of soot and combustion byproducts can mean several things. Has the unit been serviced recently? Because ventless logs draw all of their combustion air from within the room, eventually the burner orifice and air shutter can become clogged with lint or dust. It is recommended to have the unit cleaned on a yearly basis to prevent sooting.

If the unit was serviced recently, please verify the logs are setup in the original configuration. If the logs are placed in a position directly over the flames, sooting can occur. When the burner is serviced, it is also recommended to have an inspection of the burner tube done, as they can corrode over time.

By bill from Scottsdale, AZ on November 30, 2012
What is the largest ventless size? My opening is 50".
By Collin C. - NFI Master Hearth Professional on December 3, 2012

Answer:
The largest vent-free set we carry is 30 inches in width. The reason for the size limitation is linked to the BTU output limitation of 40000 BTUs for a vent-free log set. Any larger burner would yield a flame that is too low to be appealing or realistic. Any larger log set available would be in a vented variety.

By Mark on November 9, 2012
I have a large two-sided fireplace which I want to convert to a liquid propane gas log set that can be viewed from both sides. Which styles do you recommend ?
on November 9, 2012

Answer:
One our more popular vent-free sets can be seen at the link below: Vent-Free Fireplace Real Fyre log sets are among some of the most realistic that are currently available. This set is designed to fit a see-thru fireplace up to 36 inches and offers remote control capability. Please let me know if you have any questions about the set or have any specific log or control preferences.

By Travis on November 9, 2012
I am looking for a set of fire logs that are thermostat controlled and remote controlled, ventless propane, 24-30 inches.
on November 9, 2012

Answer:
We do indeed offer 24" and 30" propane ventless log sets with hand-held thermostatic remote control options. Please see some of them below: Log Set 1. Log Set 2. Log Set 3. Log Set 4. There are several other options as well, please see our full selection of ventless gas log sets here: Gas Log Set.

By Keith on November 9, 2012
I live in a house that was built around 1946. I have a gas fireplace that's 30.6" front, back 28.6" and 9" deep. It's non vented. I would like to put gas logs back in it. Can you help?
on November 9, 2012

Answer:
Based on the depth of your fireplace, it definitely seems like this must be a Victorian styled firebox. Unfortunately, I do not have a log set that could accommodate the 9 inch depth. The only vent free units I offer in the reduced depth category are coal baskets. For reference, you may view one of these units at the link below: Coal Basket These are meant to be used in conjunction with a decorative coal basket front, which is typically installed in reduced depth fireplaces such as yours.

By Linda on November 9, 2012
Should the pilot light be turned off during the summer months or would you recommend not keeping it lit and opening the flue for venting the excess gas? In the winter, would it be okay not to keep the pilot light lit then throwing a match in whenever you wanted a fire?
on November 9, 2012

Answer:
Generally, we recommend turning off the pilot for the summer months and re-lighting the first time you intend to use the fireplace. You would then keep it lit until you no longer need or want to use the fireplace, heading into the next summer.

By Nick from KY on March 13, 2013
What size logs do you recommend for the Breckenridge Deluxe 36"?
By Tyler M. - NFI Certified Specialist on March 14, 2013

Answer:
The Breckenridge Deluxe 36" fireboxes are best suited for our 24" Real Fyre ventless gas log sets. However, you will need to double-check the required dimensions to ensure proper fitting before ordering.

By g from Massachusetts on February 16, 2013
I am interested in a Peterson 30" G-18 vent free evening charred gas log set, but I am confused about the remote options, There are no descriptions of what they do, and what is electronic ignition? Does that come with variable flame adjustment on remote? What controls the flame height?
By Tommy H. on February 18, 2013

Answer:
A SPK or safety pilot kit is a standard pilot offering no remote compatibility. An APK or automatic pilot kit comes in two versions: On/Off remote ready or Variable Flame remote ready. An EPK or electronic pilot kit will ignite the fire without the need for a standing pilot light using piezoelectric ignition and can also use an on/off remote.

There are typically two remote types: standard and deluxe/thermostatic. Thermostatic remotes will turn the unit on or off depending on the temperature where you leave the remote.

By ron pearce from Flemington, NJ on November 16, 2012
I'm interested in a ventless gas log for my wood-burning fireplace. It would need to be small: my fireplace takes 18 inch logs maximum, and burns propane. Do you have a product that can run using 20 or 30 lb. propane cylinders?
By Collin C. - NFI Master Hearth Professional on November 16, 2012

Answer:
Our vent free gas logs can use down to a 20 pound propane cylinder, but this will limit the amount of time the unit will be able to burn before requiring time to vaporize more fuel. The larger the cylinder that can be used, the better.

By Margaret from Martinsville, VA on November 16, 2012
Do you carry 30" ventless gas logs in birch wood?
By Tyler M. - Fireplace Specialist on November 16, 2012

Answer:
Unfortunately, no. The only birch-style gas logs we sell are vented. We apologize for the inconvenience.

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