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    15 Questions & 15 Answers
    Juanita
    from El Paso, TX asked:
    July 13, 2017
    What is the difference between an insert and a fireplace?
    1 Answer
    An insert or fireplace insert refers to a type of appliance that is designed to be installed into an existing masonry fireplace opening. As you may know, an open masonry fireplace insulates well against heat transfer to adjacent walls, but it not efficient at heating a home. A fireplace insert can be a wood or gas appliance, but both will be much more efficient at heating your space. Inserts do not have a heavily insulated outer jacket and rely on the masonry fireplace walls for proper insulation and safety. Inserts utilize a metal flashing or surround to cover the remaining space between the insert and the edges of the fireplace opening. They also rely on flexible flue liners for proper venting up the chimney flue. A prefabricated fireplace is a fully self-contained appliance that is built with the intention of installation into a combustible wall opening. As such, the appliance can be enclosed within a combustible mantel or dimensional lumber framing. Operation is similar to an insert, but the additional outer air layer and metal jacket is what ensures safe operation within a combustible wall. These types of appliances also use rigid vent pipe. For additional elaboration on fireplace inserts, please visit our fireplace insert guide.
    eFireplaceStore
    on July 13, 2017

    Eric
    from Susanville Ca asked:
    April 12, 2018
    How do I measure the fireplace for the correct fit of a wood burning insert?
    1 Answer
    You will need to measure the front width, rear width, height and depth of your fireplace opening. If you have a masonry fireplace with a taper where it is less deep at the top of the opening than it is at the bottom, you may need to consider the measurements of the insert you are considering. If there is any question about this, please feel free to call me (Will M., NFI Certified Master Hearth Professional) directly at 901-363-8406 or 1-800-203-1642 ext. 404.
    Will M.
    on April 12, 2018

    Gardner
    from Felton, DE asked:
    October 12, 2017
    I have a mobile home with a fireplace and would like to have a fireplace insert. Can this be done?
    1 Answer
    You should first contact your local building code officials to see if you can install the unit and ask the requirements they may have on that type of installation and the permit required. After you know, you can install that locally.
    Owen
    on October 12, 2017

    Patrick Matthews
    from Halifax, NS asked:
    November 23, 2016
    I have an existing double sided fireplace. I would like to get an insert to fit inside, and utilize the chimney for real wood burning, or pellet. Do you have anything that does not require demolishing the hearth to fit in (less than 30" high)?
    1 Answer
    Unfortunately, we do not offer and are not aware of any inserts that will work with see-through fireplace openings.
    Will M.
    on November 23, 2016

    Dave Selewski
    from Detroit, MI asked:
    November 16, 2016
    Is this item gas or electric?
    1 Answer
    If you are wanting to know whether to choose a gas or electric fireplace insert to install into your masonry or prefabricated wood burning fireplace, there benefits and drawbacks with each option. For electric inserts, the positive aspect will be the low cost of the insert itself and installation. With electric systems, you will not have to pull any permits or hire a licensed or certified, however, the drawback of installing any electric insert is they are limited to around 5,000 Btus which will only heat a space of around 144 square feet. With gas inserts, the heating capacity is much greater. Additionally, the burner, logs and flame will provide a much more realistic appearance. The cost of installation will involve having to pay a licensed plumber to run a gas line to the hearth opening, but this may be roughly the same with the installation of an electric insert if electricity has not been run to the opening and a licensed electrician must be contracted. With gas inserts, the cost of the insert itself may also include additional components that would not be needed with an electric insert. Also, if you are considering a ventless insert, these are not allowed in all jurisdictions.
    Will M.
    on November 17, 2016

    Ddoug
    from Oregon asked:
    November 15, 2016
    Do you have inserts for two sided fireplaces?
    1 Answer
    We will not offer any see-through inserts as products of this type are not currently manufactured. For a see through fireplace, our only recommendation will be to install two ventless inserts, back-to-back.
    Will M.
    on November 15, 2016

    Travis
    from Page, AZ asked:
    November 10, 2016
    I have a Majestic Insta Flame natural gas fireplace. Model: DVR36 RP. Serial #: B11B0097092094. BTUH appears to be 18,299. I need a replacement fireplace insert for the upper center panel. Can this be ordered individually or do the inserts come in a set?
    1 Answer
    Up until a few years ago, we were still able to special order parts for this unit, including the interior panels. However, the manufacturer has now discontinued parts support and I'm afraid that we are no longer able to source a suitable replacement. I am very sorry for the inconvenience.
    eFireplaceStore
    on November 10, 2016

    Kim
    from Hampshire, IL asked:
    December 31, 2014
    Can a fireback be used in a fireplace insert?
    1 Answer
    It is not recommended to do so. The high heat generated in a fireplace insert can warp and damage the casting, as a fireplace insert will not have the dilution air pulled in that an open fireplace will.
    eFireplaceStore
    on December 31, 2014

    Steven
    from Fountain, CO asked:
    November 15, 2014
    Can I replace my gas insert with a pellet burning one?
    1 Answer
    As long as your fireplace has the dimensions to house a pellet insert, installation of one should not be a problem. Pellet inserts use a different venting system than gas models. As such, the existing venting will need to be removed and a stainless liner installed for the pellet insert.
    eFireplaceStore
    on November 17, 2014

    Bill
    from Hollisgton, MA asked:
    September 23, 2013
    How would you install the insert into an existing fireplace? What kind of liner is required?
    1 Answer
    Wood burning and gas inserts alike will usually use a decorative metal surround to cover any additional space between the insert and the fireplace opening. The insert would simply be pushed into position, then the liner can be dropped down the chimney flue. Lastly, the surround can be attached.
    Collin C. - NFI Master Hearth Professional
    on September 24, 2013

    Patricia
    from Levittown, NY asked:
    August 31, 2013
    Do you have wood burning fireplace inserts for see thru fireplaces?
    1 Answer
    Unfortunately, no, we do not carry any two-sided woodburning inserts at this time.
    Tyler M. - NFI Certified Specialist
    on September 3, 2013

    CJ
    from Cape Cod, ME asked:
    May 13, 2013
    Can I add a wood burning insert to my fireplace without losing my existing glass doors?
    1 Answer
    Unfortunately, no. All wood burning inserts require the removal of any existing door enclosure, as the insert will have a sealed door of its own that must be readily accessed. The insert must also be able to readily radiate heat to the room. Your factory door enclosure would likely prevent this to a degree.
    Collin C. - NFI Master Hearth Professional
    on May 13, 2013

    Ceil
    from FL asked:
    March 22, 2013
    Do any inserts come with a way to catch ashes so that removal is easier?
    1 Answer
    Unfortunately, the fireplace inserts that we offer do not have an option for an ash pan or tray. Ashes must be raked or swept to the front of the unit and removed using a handheld ash pan.
    Collin C. - NFI Master Hearth Professional
    on March 25, 2013

    Thomas R
    from Bath, NY asked:
    November 18, 2012
    Are thermocouples for gas fireplace inserts universal?
    1 Answer
    Thermocouples are different from unit to unit. While some thermocouples in home improvement stores are marketed as "universal", they will not work for all appliances. Millivoltage for a thermocouple can range from 50 to 250, depending on the appliance. It is important to use a thermocouple that is properly sized to the unit, as damage to the magnets in the gas valve can result otherwise.
    Collin C. - NFI Master Hearth Professional
    on November 19, 2012

    Steve
    from Sacramento, CA asked:
    November 8, 2012
    Typically, how do you clean the glass on a gas fireplace? How do you get to the inside?
    1 Answer
    In most cases, direct vent and some sealed B-vent fireplaces will have metal clasps or screw clasps that will hold the glass in place. Depending on your unit, the clasps may be on the top, bottom, or upper and lower sides. Usually, top and bottom types will only have 2 clasps, which will allow the glass to tilt up or down when opened. Side clasp models typically have 4 clasps that will all need to be opened to allow you to pull the glass straight off when opened.
    Collin C. - NFI Master Hearth Professional
    on November 9, 2012


    What is a Fireplace Insert?

    After spending a few minutes online searching for such a thing, variable definitions are sure to be found. To some, a fireplace insert is a log set. Others refer to a fireplace insert as a concrete liner inside a wood fireplace or a set of ceramic brick liners designed to change the appearance of a gas fireplace. Still others refer to any prefabricated fireplace as a "fireplace insert". The terminology is not well understood by many and it can lead to unending confusion for customers and installers alike.

    In order to help our customers make a more informed buying decision, we will cover the various aspects of a fireplace insert and what purpose it fulfills. For some, a fireplace insert will be the perfect solution to end the frustrations that can result from using a traditional open faced fireplace. Others will continue to hold aesthetics and fire viewing as the primary goal. So with out further delay, let us dispel the misnomers of this category of hearth appliance.

    Open Fireplaces vs Fireplace Inserts - Fundamentals

    The greatest source of confusion for most consumers is what actually separates a fireplace insert from a fireplace. A fireplace by definition is a built in housing for wood or gas fires, be it masonry or prefabricated. Masonry fireplaces are constructed of brick, stone, or block. These are often referring to as "site built" models, meaning that they are designed by a builder or architect, then the required materials are delivered to the job site for construction to commence. This type of fireplace is typically built in conjunction with the home, having a footer poured at the same time the building foundation or slab is poured. From there, construction usually follows along with the progress of the house framing, with the exterior veneer being completed in line with the rest of the home. These types of fireplaces are not as common as they once were, owing to rising construction costs, lack of knowledge of how to properly build them, and low overall efficiency.

    Prefabricated fireplaces accomplish much the same goal as a masonry fireplace, but at a fraction of the cost. These types of fireplaces usually consist of a sheet metal chassis that is designed for installation into a framed wall opening. They are then vented using a manufactured pipe system, which is enclosed within the structure walls or within a decorative chimney that can mimic the look of a masonry chimney. During the installation of a prefabricated fireplace, there comes a step where the fireplace is physically "inserted" into the framed opening by the installer. It is this installation step that so readily lends this type of fireplace to being labeled as a fireplace insert.

    While there are some cross over models of fireplace insert on the market that are dual purpose, allowing installation like a fireplace and as a fireplace insert, these models are in the extreme minority. Almost all fireplace inserts are designed with the sole function of improving the efficiency of an existing open fireplace. For wood burning models, this means converting the existing low efficiency open fireplace into a credible heat source. Wood burning fireplace inserts function like a wood burning stove and feature a closed combustion firebox that allows them to generate large amounts of radiant heat, while using far less oxygen than an open fireplace. Gas burning fireplace inserts share much the same task, being designed to convert an inefficient wood burning fireplace or low efficiency gas log set to a high efficiency heat source.

    Much the same as an installer "inserts" a new prefabricated fireplace into a framed opening, there is also the action of "inserting" a gas log set into an existing fireplace to enhance its appearance. Virtually any retrofit of a hearth appliance has been incorrectly classified as an insert at some point, however with the information covered so far, it is simple to see what the classification truly applies to.

    For a more in depth look at the design characteristics and operation of fireplace inserts, we encourage you to visit our fireplace insert buying guide.

    Open Fireplace vs Fireplace Insert - Efficiency

    Lack of operating efficiency is one of the primary reservations that most customers have with using an open faced fireplace. Open wood burning fireplaces have been in use for thousands of years and are a proven concept that has become easy to replicate and employ. The idea of harnessing flame into a relatively small enclosure which would then allow heating of the surrounding stone or brick was a ground breaking achievement that has not changed for centuries. Designs such as Rumford fireplaces, with their shallow walls and tall opening, improved upon the basic design and increased radiant heating of the room. The same concepts that allowed wood burning fireplaces to function as they do was soon employed with gas burning fireplaces. As time went on however, mankind evolved from the survivalist instinct of just trying to stay warm, to fully enclosed structures that we desired to keep evenly heated through all manner of extreme cold.

    Unfortunately, the point came were it became clear that heating demands outstripped the abilities of open fireplaces Installation of doors and the use of dedicated combustion air ducts offered some improvement, but the fundamental design of open fireplaces ensured that they would always remove large quantities of air from the building as they operated. The strong upward draft of flue gases essentially causes an open fireplace to work like a vacuum pump. While they do offer radiant heat, the continuous draft pulls so much ambient air from the home that the fireplace can actually be counterproductive. The immediate room is warmed, but all rooms further away begin to cool as make up air is pulled through every gap in the outer wall of the home. For tightly built homes, opening a door can result in a huge inflow of cold outside air as the home struggles to find a pressure balance again.

    Fireplace inserts as a whole are designed to solve the problems experienced with traditional open fireplaces. For wood burning models, the fireplace is converted into what is essentially a built in wood stove. The amount of oxygen consumed by a wood burning insert is typically only 5 to 10 percent of what is used by an open fireplace, meaning that pressure issues in the home are alleviated and the consumption of wood is greatly reduced. Modern fireplace inserts utilize a highly aerodynamic firebox that recirculates wood particles for a very complete burn, meaning that the efficiency of the fireplace housing the insert is boosted from a flat or even negative efficiency level to up to 85 percent efficiency.

    Gas burning inserts also yield impressive efficiency gains. Direct vent gas models feature a dual intake and exhaust system, which allows the appliance to pull outside air for combustion while exhausting what little waste heat there is to atmosphere. The integral burner systems are engineered for optimal heat output and most inserts feature a circulating fan to push the heated air into the room. Vent free gas inserts omit use of the chimney entirely, meaning that they are nearly perfectly efficient and can create a credible supplemental heat source where there was previously a poor performing open fireplace.

    Open Fireplace vs Fireplace Inserts - Design

    More obvious than efficiency differences is the visual variance between fireplaces and fireplace inserts. Because they are known and often accepted to be a low efficiency heat source, most models of fireplace take extra steps to be visually appealing. After all, if the fireplace is both inefficient and ugly, what is the point of having it? Fireplaces will focus on having a wide and often tall viewing area. For masonry fireplaces, the interior is usually constructed with firebrick or refractory walls that are visually pleasing. The surrounding fireplace opening is usually clad in decorative material, such as brick, stone, marble, or granite. Because they do not radiate much heat to the adjacent sides of the fireplace, a broader range of mantels and surrounds can be used. In short, the emphasis on visual appeal is maximized with an open fireplace to make the fire viewing experience as cozy as possible.

    While fireplace inserts are certainly developed to be visually pleasing as well, their retrofit nature means that there are some design compromises that have to be made. These compromises are usually the biggest sources of hesitation for customers on the fence between leaving their fireplace open for better viewing or installing an insert to increase efficiency.

    The biggest item of note is the requirement for a surround to be used. A fireplace insert will be designed to fit into the existing fireplace opening and while it is certainly ideal to minimize the difference in size between the two, there will always be a gap that must be covered. Fireplace insert surrounds or shrouds are usually manufactured from stamped steel or cast iron and will serve as the cover needed to conceal the gap. While newer models offer surrounds that are more visually pleasing than past offerings, there is still a noticeable detraction to the overall looks of the fireplace.

    Going hand in hand with the use of a surround is the need for a fireplace insert to be physically smaller than the fireplace itself. No matter what model of insert is used, the viewing area is guaranteed to be smaller. The need for the fireplace insert to contain all the necessary gas valve components, liners, and fire brick means that some space will be eaten up by these items, leading to a smaller opening for fire viewing. For the occasional fireplace user that is not terribly concerned with efficiency, these trade offs may not justify the installation of the insert.

    Because of their more efficient design, fireplace inserts also may necessitate changes in design to the fireplace surround or mantel. Materials that previously met clearance requirements for an open fireplace may now become dangerously hot and require relocation. Depending on how elaborate the fireplace mantel is or the sentimental value it may hold, this is an issue that could be difficult to address.

    For additional information on working a fireplace insert into your room decor, we recommend taking a peek at our room design guide.

    Open Fireplaces vs Fireplace Inserts - Venting

    In almost all cases there is an existing fireplace that a consumer is considering retrofitting a fireplace insert into. It is rare to hear of an insert being installed directly into a newly built masonry or prefabricated fireplace, although there are rare cases. As such, we will not cover the differences in overall venting costs between these two categories of appliances, but will instead focus on the different design aspects and what can be expected when installing fireplace insert venting.

    Open masonry fireplaces will utilize clay flue tiles for venting purposes. Often referred to as terra-cotta flues, these tiles are made of a very durable material that is sized to the opening of the fireplace. Prefabricated fireplaces will also have purpose built flue systems, but instead will rely on prefabricated chimney sections constructed of stainless steel, galvanized steel, or both. The design characteristic that both setups have in common is that they are much larger than the venting system needed for a fireplace insert. In wood burning applications, the higher level of emissions means that the chimney will need to be cleaned more frequently. Gas burning systems are very clean burning and will not necessarily require any additional maintenance over a gas fireplace insert.

    Gas, wood, and pellet burning fireplace inserts are all designed to be vented through a flexible liner system that is routed within the existing fireplace flue. For wood burning systems, the liner is commonly six inches in diameter and is manufactured of stainless steel. Gas burning systems will utilize an aluminum liner system and will usually feature a pair of 3 inch liners. One liner supplies combustion air for the fireplace insert, while the other will vent exhaust gases. Pellet inserts will use a stainless steel liner similar to wood burning models, but the diameter is usually only 3 to 4 inches.

    When installing an insert, it is important to consider just how much space will be available to attach the chimney liner to the top of the appliance. If there is very little space between the top of the insert and the top of the fireplace, it could be difficult to make the appropriate connections. Masonry fireplaces have a large smoke chamber that allows the flexible liner some space to contour into the flue, however prefabricated systems usually have a flat ceiling with no extra space to route the liner. As such, it is important to ensure that the fireplace insert being selected has a flue collar that aligns with the chimney flue of the fireplace.

    Additional coverage on fireplace and fireplace insert maintenance can be found in our fireplace maintenance guide.

    Open Fireplaces vs Fireplace Inserts - Maintenance

    When it comes to frequency of maintenance, gas burning fireplaces and fireplace inserts have almost no differences. Common components such as gas valves, thermocouples, and log sets follow the same maintenance schedule and vent systems require only periodic inspection for both appliance types.

    The most difference can be seen between wood burning fireplaces and wood burning fireplace inserts. As previously mentioned, wood burning fireplaces produce large quantities of particulate pollution, leading to a build up of ash and creosote on the chimney walls. Even a well constructed, hot burning fire will produce this byproduct material. For a regular user, it is not uncommon to have to clean the chimney twice or more during the burn season. Installation of a fireplace insert improves efficiency vastly. Because of their integral reburn systems, fireplace inserts produce far less particulate pollution, meaning that the flue liner will remain cleaner for longer periods. When operated properly, it is rare that the liner will need to be swept more than once a season. Some occasional users have found that a cleaning is required only every other season. For a customer that has access to a plentiful supply of fuel logs and is considering using a fireplace insert as a primary heat source, the reduced level of maintenance can be a real life saver.

    Fuel and Electrical Considerations

    When it comes to gas fireplace inserts, the requirement for a gas line to be run into the existing fireplace is something that must be kept in mind. Many consumers will at some point decide that burning wood is not worth the effort and so choose to convert to a gas burning model. Most cities and well established towns will have infrastructure in place to supply natural gas to homes, but it is not a guarantee that the house will have a gas meter in place, especially if the house was built with only electric appliances installed. The cost of having a meter and supply line should be considered before making the purchase of the insert.

    In rural areas, natural gas may not be available, with the house being supplied by a propane fuel tank instead. As with natural gas, if the home does not already have the tank in place, the infrastructure must be put into place before the installation can proceed. In both natural gas and propane installations, the cost of having the gas infrastructure installed can be substantial. The cost of the insert itself coupled with the cost of the gas piping may lead the customer to consider a wood burning insert instead. While the need for fuel logs will continue, the efficiency of the fireplace insert is sure to make a difference in how much wood is consumed.

    To increase their overall efficiency, most inserts utilize an electric blower system that pulls the heat from the fireplace insert chassis and forces it into the room. While this makes a huge difference in thermal efficiency, it also necessitates the installation of a 120 volt power source to supply the fan. The cost to add an outlet or wire an electrical pigtail to a nearby outlet should be considered when installing a fireplace insert. In some cases, an electrical plug may be close enough that a flat piece of panduit can be installed along the edge of the fireplace and used to conceal a light gauge extension cord.

    Final Considerations

    In addition to clarifying the differences between a fireplace and a fireplace insert, you should now have a clear understanding of what appliance will work best for your installation. There is no true "one size fits all" model of fireplace or fireplace insert and it is best to work with a skilled NFI certified technician, such as the professionals at eFireplacestore, to determine your exact needs. With a clear understanding of your vision for the room, the right appliance for your application can be installed, leaving you with the sense of satisfaction that comes from making the right decision.

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